THE ANTI-ABORTION LAW IN POLANDTHE FUNCTIONING, SOCIAL EFFECTS,
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Attitudes of the Medical Professionalists Towards Abortion The Report on Research of the Effects of the Family Planning, Protection of Human Fetus and Conditions for Termination of Pregnancy Act -Danuta DuchInformation about researchBy request of the Federation for Women and Family Planning, the company RUN, Research and University Network, conducted a survey on effects of the Anti-Abortion Act. The survey took place between 31 of May and 13 of July 1999, using in-depth interviews with doctors and nurses working in Warsaw, as with the professional groups connected to the practical realization of the Act. Goals of the research The research goal was to recognize the social and health effects of the Anti-Abortion Act of 1993, and particularly to get information about:
Group of respondents 10 in-depth interviews were conducted: 6 with gynecologists (2 women and 4 men) and 4 with middle level medical staff - midwives and nurses.
Doctors taking part in the survey usually worked in more than one place. Conducting the survey During the survey, some difficulties occurred with finding doctors and nurses to take part in the study. No person asked by phone to take part agreed to do so. In one of hospitals, all doctors working there refused one by one. Knowledge about conditions and procedures in cases of lawful abortionIn their work, gynecologists and assisting nurses and midwives come across women with unintentional pregnancies. In Poland, the conditions for abortion are strictly defined by legal regulations of the Anti-Abortion Act. The knowledge about situations in which a doctor can conduct an abortion is, for a gynecologist, knowledge about the possible legal actions she/he can undertake in professional practice. Being familiar with the regulations is also a condition for giving correct, reliable information to women, who find themselves with unwanted pregnancy. Rape is not a reason for abortion (D). The Act does not precisely define medical indications for abortion; it only vaguely states, "constituting the threat to life or health of a pregnant woman." Nor does the act elaborate on "heavy and irreversible damage of a fetus or incurable disease threatening it's life". None of the doctors interviewed criticized this lack of precision. On the contrary - some of them pointed at advantages of such a situation. The Act mentions heavy damage of a fetus and from the legal point of view it is enough, because medicine is developing, constantly something new is being discovered and if we categorized it very strictly, there would be problems afterwards. (D) Medical indications for termination of pregnancy appear to be very controversial for doctors. If there is a rape, they come to the hospital immediately, because this is the procedure. If she was raped, she goes to the police and makes a statement there, and a policeman goes to the hospital with her. I don't recall any woman coming and saying that she was raped and got pregnant. (D) Discrepancies in statements of doctors about procedures required for abortion result from lack of knowledge about the law and from different, not always lawful practices. Doctors, who during their practice did not come across terminations of pregnancy at work, are less confident while talking about procedures. There are no cases of lawful abortion now. I, for instance, haven't heard of it. (…) At the moment I really haven't heard about any patient after termination of pregnancy.Ê(N) The nurses' knowledge about legal procedures in cases of lawful abortion is equally imprecise. One of nurses stated directly that she doesn't know such procedures, previously there were certificates from gynecologist required, from a specialist on a certain illnesses, psychologist, but now she doesn't know. Another nurse stated that she thinks that referral from a gynecologist is required, some examinations, or some professional board is examining the case, she doesn't know, there were no such cases. In the opinion of one of nurses, the formal procedure is unbelievably complicated and there has to be a commission. The gynecologist taking care of pregnancy: Sends her to some consultant… then there is another consultant… and if all of them state that there are reasons, and then a patient can lawfully do it in a hospital. (N) The practice of terminations of pregnanciesThere were such doctors, that did not say if they conduct abortions or not, other stated that they have never done it or that they do not do it at this at the moment. Women with unwanted pregnancies do not come to me very often, very rarely, because for many years I haven't supported "such contraception"…but it happens…but I have some patients with such a problem. (D) The scale of a problem All medical professionals say that the number of patients coming to them with unwanted pregnancy has decreased. One every six months. It used to be much more. There were loads of patients before. Now they very rarely come to a hospital or to private clinic with pregnancy. More often to a private clinic. (…)At the moment there are patients who don't want to get pregnant and who come to get a prescription for contraception.(D) Doctors did not specify the time period of their comparisons. Do they mean in comparison to the sixties, eighties or to the period directly before introduction of restrictions in the abortion law (early nineties)? We can only suspect that they are thinking about longer perspective and earlier years. At the beginning of the nineties, the number of abortions conducted officially was not that big, comparing to previous years, as one of the doctors stressed. Abortions in hospitals The number of abortions in hospitals is decreasing significantly; both doctors and nurses confirmed this. There used to be 7 abortions a day in the hospital, I remember. Right now, with all restrictions, it is a marginal issue. (D) One of nurses noted with irony that the number of abortions would be even lower if abortions were illegal completely. All nurses said that the reason for dropping number of legal abortions in hospital is, among other things, the behavior of doctors themselves. Doctors did not mention this at all. Nurses nevertheless spoke of the reluctance of doctors towards issuing certificates directing a patient to have an abortion (delays, directing a patient from one doctor to another) and about smaller and smaller number of diseases, which, in doctors' opinion, constitute the reason for termination of pregnancy. We even had mentally disabled patients and nothing, they had to carry the pregnancy and bear the child. It would have to be I don't know what, don't know how serious this disability would have to be. (N) One doctor and one nurse mentioned that in the past, pregnancies had been terminated because of genetic fetal defects; nowadays there are no such patients. One doctor says that they might be directed to other hospitals. According to a nurse, it is caused by the fact that earlier these services were allowed. Right now, in her opinion, such abortions cannot be performed in a hospital. I don't know how it is, because we haven't had such a case yet (pregnancy with a genetically defective fetus), that's why I think that they were probably directed somewhere else…if they were not here, they must have gone somewhere else, but where…I don't know. I'm sure that different defects are not uncommon. (N) Cases of refusing abortion in hospitals are commonly known. You know, we had a patient who has three children with development defects and she went to different hospitals and none of them admitted her. (N) One of the doctors presented it differently, the hospital waiting for patients. He works in a hospital to which after introduction of restrictions, no patients came wanting an abortion. There were abortions conducted in this hospital in time when the more liberal version of the law was binding, allowing for termination on social grounds. At the moment, according to a doctor, if there was a need - there will be doctors who would conduct an abortion. It is pointed, nevertheless, that a patient has to have "really good papers for it". There are hospitals where abortions are performed, and there are those, where abortions are not being conducted. And this is more or less known. There is no district registration now, so a patient can be directed where abortions are conducted. (D) Termination of pregnancy in private clinics, or the abortion underground The abortion underground in Poland constitutes of doctors who conduct illegal abortions in private clinics. If there was a real need to conduct an abortion, I would simply find someone to do it - this is not a problem. (D) Doctors and nurses stress the public knowledge about the abortion underground. They spoke of ads in press, in "¿ycie Warszawy" and in "Gazeta Wyborcza"36, in which gynecologists conducting illegal abortions offer their services. The content of such ads is ambiguous: "gynecological services…""full range of services," "services of all kinds" or "operations - cheaply". This phenomenon is common and public enough to treat every gynecologist as a one potentially conducting illegal abortions. Two weeks ago I received a call: a young man was phoning, as I could recognize from his voice, and was asking if I am a gynecologist. Then he asked if I am offering a full range of services (…) So I said that I probably am not offering the range that he is thinking about, but I am sure that he was up to something like this. (D) Information about where one can have an abortion is passed on by women themselves - patients know very well, who is doing what. A particular network is being created. Women who come to see a doctor in a situation of unwanted pregnancy are those who generally have no idea. One of nurses informed us about patients who come to hospitals informally. Even if, they talk about it with doctors privately, or something (…) using this informal way they learn one from another and omit formal ways. (N) Because the underground is publicly known and relatively widely accessible, women asked about abortions during medical interviews admit having them. One of the doctors stated that when asking about abortion, it is only to collect information if it was conducted professionally and if there were no complications after it. This information is relevant for the assessment of the state of health. In a one to one talk, women admit that they had an abortion two, three months ago and now would like to use contraception. But, of course, I never ask for details. (D) Different groups of women are clients of the abortion underground in Poland. The first, and probably the biggest, is those who want to terminate pregnancy on different social grounds. That is completely illegal by regulations standards. Women's attempts at terminating pregnancies themselves The doctors did not mention women's attempts to terminate pregnancies on their own. But all of the nurses working in hospitals spoke of these actual cases or of their suspicions that some patients could have been trying to terminate a pregnancy. Sometimes we suspect something (attempted abortion), that she came with some septa to give birth, earlier birth, twenty and a few weeks, but it is hard to say, if she… was putting some wire there or something…well, I didn't catch anyone doing that…these are suspicions … only suspicions. (N) According to nurses, women try to perform abortions by themselves when they were not successful with official termination, and they don't have the money to do it using the underground. There are stories around about prescriptions, home remedies for pregnancy. She wanted to do it officially, because she couldn't afford private services, and she knew that it didn't work, so she tried to do it somehow on her own… there are stories about herbs or medicines, although there is nothing that can cause spontaneous miscarriage. (N) It is intriguing that doctors do not mention abortion attempts by women themselves. Nurses working in a hospital, however, do. It may be that doctors do not treat "suspicions", even the justified ones, as facts, unless a woman admits what she has done, and this is why they don't talk about it. It may also be that - as it was said before - nurses are differently placed in a professional hierarchy and their perspective is different - they more often talk to patients on the informal basis and are able to get information, which is not accessible for doctors. Another explaining hypothesis would be the lack of knowledge of legal regulations among nurses - they may not know that illegal abortions should be reported to police and this is why they feel free to give such an information to a person who is conducting a research. (See also: Complications after abortion and abandonment of unwanted children). Attitudes towards the ActGeneral attitude towards the Act Doctors, who were interviewed, show different attitudes towards the Act, from full acceptance to total negation. I think that it (the Act) is a huge progress, and that it's good. Because I don't think it is right to raise the issue of human life, that we can't judge. I think that there have to be some exceptions, however it can't be that women decide on their own indications, that abortion should be conducted by request. It is not a toy. A child is not one's property… it is a child, it is another story, it is not some part of a woman. (D) Two doctors represented a totally negative attitude towards the Act. The reason for rejection of legal regulations in both cases was the recognition of the subjectivity of a person and of the right to free decision. Nor the state, or doctor, or the Church has the right to limit the right of every person to decide about one's life in a rigorous and restrictive way. I think that a woman has the right to decide if she wants to terminate pregnancy or not. The decision should not be imposed. But a doctor should secure a woman with a consultation, explain risks connected to it, because it's well known that the risk is big. The state also should secure the possibility of making a choice. (D) A completely different vision of a woman, a person than the one presented above, comes from a statement of a doctor who is pro Anti-Abortion Act. Summing up, in a general way the merits of the Act, he stated directly that not all women are so wise and responsible that they can make decisions in their own matters, and that those decisions have to be made by the state on their behalf. Those statements, in a very visible way, question the subjectivity of women. Despite being a Catholic, I think (…) that in situations like rape, serious illnesses, pregnancies should be terminated. (N) Other nurses said that the Act is not good in any aspect; it disregards the well being of women and deprives them of the possibilities of deciding about themselves and their lives. The Act could be more for women … it could be that they themselves could decide if they want to have an abortion or not. (N) Nurses, while talking about the Act, do not use political language, do not use notions such as: human rights, subjectification or objectification, but the sense of their statements is just like that. They define the Act as anti-women, because in their daily practice they see the suffering and tragedies of women, which are caused by regulations of the Act. This is not the way; it is a matter of contraception and pro-family policy Two doctors were wholly against the Act. They thought that limiting the right to decide about abortion would not limit the number of conducted terminations. According to one's opinion, the total ban on abortion would only influence the number of terminations conducted outside hospitals, and this means more infertile women, more looking for psychiatric assistance, more complications connected with inflammations, and more extra-uterine pregnancies. A restrictive law will not limit the number of abortions. This is not the way. The way is through strengthening awareness, for teenagers to not get pregnant, because there are more and more young girls getting pregnant and having children. The way is through education and prevention. This is not, however, being done. (D) Both doctors - opponents of the Act - recognized abortion as something immoral, both said that they don't conduct abortions, both stressed that there are no women who would like to have an abortion. Nobody is pro abortion. Nobody would like to be doing this, nobody supports it. I think this is an extreme situation, but such situations happen and can happen to every woman. (D) One of the nurses also stated that doctors in her professional environment were very critical of the restrictive law and said, "this is not the way". For this to work, there has to be some education first, then contraception, then, finally, a restrictive law. (D) The nurses shared the same view. For such a restrictive Act to be introduced, first one has to educate young women, so they know how to behave, so they have access to contraception and then one can make demands not to conduct abortions. Not only women - men too. It's just the society has to be educated and sexual education has to be professional, not like the one that exists at the moment. (N) The Act itself and more Some doctors, who were not such determined opponents to the Act, also stated that the ban on abortion is not enough to limit the number of abortions. For women to give birth to children, the restrictive Act has to be accompanied by positive social policy, supporting having children. Children cannot be a burden exclusively to parents. It is not about telling people that they cannot. People should be better educated, and this is hard because our Church is so restrictive. This is the fight, like the fight with religion within all of this. (D) Some doctors said that one the condition for limiting abortion is promotion of family planning and effective contraception. This element of the policy, despite being included in the Act, is not executed at all. There is no education in schools. There are negative opinions of effective contraception; the Church is against it. It makes me happy that women take their matters in their own hands and look for a doctor to advise them. Even very religious women, when they get married, come to ask about natural family planning - they want to talk about it. What else can be said - a doctor can tell you more than a priest. The contraception method has to be chosen correctly, so a patient doesn't feel bad about using it. So many bad things have been said about some methods that some ask right away if this will cause a miscarriage. Contraception in Poland has such bad press. Often, when I prescribe medicine as treatment … to regulate menstruation, patients are not happy, if it has a contraceptive effect - there is such a group of women. (D) The Church's negative approach towards contraception results in reluctant attitudes in certain groups of women, and internal conflict for some doctors. It (the pill) gives 100% certainty. It is contraception; it is not abortifacient as, for instance, IUDs (intra-uterine devices), and it is the method I personally advice. And I am sorry, because I am a Catholic, I am sorry that the position of the Catholic Church is like that. It will, with no doubt in my opinion, change one day, but I would like to be right and I don't feel right. (D) It is very hard to say that promotion of effective contraception is present in Poland, not only the Church, but also some doctors oppose it. This doctor never performed abortions, and she is even against contraception. Because she says these are medications with side effects, that they influence the state of health, specifically with young girls, 15 or 14 years of age coming to ask for contraception. So she advises natural methods: observing discharge, measuring temperature. (N) Social effects of the anti-abortion actIrrespective of their general attitude towards the Act, doctors and nurses talked about its merits and shortcomings. Only one doctor did not see any bad sides of regulations and two doctors and one nurse stated that there was nothing good about the law. The good thing (in the Act) is that in general there is theoretically some possibility for termination of pregnancy. This is the only merit. (D) The increase of interest in family planning, and the decrease in the number of abortions The opinion that the Act influenced women's attitudes towards contraception and abortion is quite common: Women treated abortion as the basic contraception method, which is wrong (…) now they cannot treat it like this (…). Introduction of this Act made women aware, generally made people aware, that this is not a contraception method, and this had a great meaning. (D) Considering the fact that abortion is still widely accessible through the abortion underground, it is hard to recognize the restrictive law as a factor (or at least the only factor) influencing the change in women's awareness in issues of family planning. A doctor, who supported the theory on Anti-Abortion Act influencing the increase in the use of contraception, when asked by a researcher if that means that previously (before the introduction of the Act) women did not use contraception, answered: Well, yes. Maybe it was because there were no such possibilities - there were no contraception pills. Contraception was expensive. There was only one contraception pill Gravistat, which contained a large dose of hormones, and was not good for every patient. Nowadays, pills are expensive, but also the society is better off. There are also pills, which are very cheap, for women who don't have much money - on prescription, around 3 zloty (PLN) a month. (D) Not all doctors connect the lower number of abortions with restrictive regulations. In one's opinion, the lower number of abortions is not a result of restrictions, but of the introduction of more contraception to the market and an increasing awareness of the society - also of a many years' discussion about the defining conditions for lawful abortions. Not the fear from compulsory maternity, but being aware that it is better to prevent than to terminate, caused the decrease in numbers of unwanted pregnancies in Poland. I think that the number of abortions in Poland, even illegal ones, decreased significantly because of society's changing awareness. The accessibility of contraception is much wider and it is not as expensive as it was only few years ago. (D) A nurse also shared this view - there are fewer abortions, because of contraception promotion, and more variety (less harmful): oral contraception, vaginal contraception, and diaphragms. Women started to think about prevention. Because when someone talks to her, she starts to think about it. It is not like that any more, that when a husband is drunk, he has to have it (sex), because he is going to bed (…) But it is better to prevent than giving birth afterwards, than facing some consequences. (N) During one of the interviews, it was concluded that the decrease in number of abortions should not be connected to the introduction of the restrictive regulations at all. This connection is only superficial. In general, at the beginning of the nineties, when the Act was not there and abortion was allowed, the number of abortions was not that large (…)The Act's introduction did not limit the number of abortions, but it increased the number of abortions conducted illegally and complications connected with them. (D) If it is not really known, how many abortions were conducted before the introduction of the Act and after that (legal and illegal) and how many women use contraception and what contraception, this theory that the restrictions resulted in fewer abortions, sounds unbelievable, stated a doctor who does not see any good to the regulations. We could talk about the law's benefits only if it was really proven that there was a significant decrease of abortions in general, and that people have started to think about family planning, that there are more wanted pregnancies carried to term, and that less children are being abandoned, or at least that there is no growing number of children being abandoned, as it would be if not for the Act. (D) There is no reliable data about the number of abortions conducted in Poland, and for as long as the law is present, there will not be. It is possible that during the nineties there has been no significant change. Nevertheless, if we take a longer perspective, correlation about increasing use of contraception and decreasing number of abortions is justified, at least in relation to those, which are officially conducted in hospitals.
It should also be added that the public's criticism of the abortion law in effect since 1956 started as early as the 1980s. Post-abortion complications and abandonment of unwanted children Frequent post-abortion complications are one of the negative effects of the Act, as a result of the growing number of abortions conducted outside hospitals. More cases of children from unwanted pregnancies, abandoned by their mothers in hospitals, is also a negative result. Women can be concerned not only about their health. Cases of illegal abortions should be reported to the police. They wouldn't come after an illegal abortion because we would have to report it. (D) The majority of doctors did not come across post-abortion complications resulting from the use of underground services. At the moment there are no such patients. I haven't met with such cases during my practice. (D) One of the doctors explains this fact with the high quality of operations performed by professionals. There are also anti-inflammatory antibiotics. Experiences of doctors, who took part in the survey, do not show increasing numbers of post-abortion complications in the period since restrictive regulations have been in effect. Usually patients are talkative. Especially when they paid. They say that doctors did it. (…) I never ask specific questions like: what? How? With whom? Why?, well… but one knows it, just knows, that they were in a clinic. Patients usually don't know that there is something wrong, only that a doctor told them to come for observation. (…) They are not especially afraid to talk; we are obliged to keep it confidential. (N) There are also other reasons for such situations. According to one nurse many women come to emergency room bleeding after operations starting the abortion. They go, for instance, to a private clinic, where doctors begin the operation but don't finish, and the patient comes to the emergency room, "because I am pregnant and I'm bleeding profusely," and she pretends to be highly surprised. (N) If there are patients in a ward suspected of having complications after abortion, the topic is taboo. If we have such a patient, it is taboo; we don't talk about it. (N) Similar to attempts of self-induced abortion, also is the case of post-abortion complications; the picture presented by doctors and by nurses is different. Reasons for doctors not talking about such complications are similar to those before: responsibility of doctors, obligation of reporting abortions to the police, not treating "suspicions" as facts. (See also: Attempts of women to terminate pregnancy on their own) And there are a lot of such patients … well, maybe not a lot, but more and more. Especially young mothers, who come and leave their children in the hospital. They give birth to children and leave them. It is very sad, because most of the time these are young mothers, uneducated, and very scared. They are told to leave their personal data, that if they want to give the child up for adoption, they should leave their name and address, so the child can be adopted. But they don't do it and run away. (…) This year, there were 3 such women, maybe more. (in first half of 1999). Another doctor spoke of infanticide, but did not connect it directly with the Anti-Abortion Act. There are cases of infanticide, etc. It is not known, how such a woman would behave if legal regulations were different. What is needed is help from people surrounding her. (D) Other benefits and shortcomings Two doctors stated that the right to refuse conducting an abortion based on the clause of conscience is the largest benefit of the abortion Act (mistakenly connecting the right to refusal, included in the Medical Profession Act, with the Anti-Abortion Act). When the Act of 1956 was in effect, doctors working in public hospitals were obliged to conduct abortions. For some of them it was a large problem. She comes here and wants to kill a human being. And the law obliges me to take part in it. And this contradicts my personal beliefs. (D) For the second doctor this situation was also unacceptable, because, as he said: you do not become a doctor to perform abortions (…) it was hard to agree to do such things. (D) This decision, for many years, was made by the director of the hospital, who came and said, "today you will perform abortions." The fact that a doctor now can choose if she/he wants or doesn't want to perform abortions is seen as right. Doctors, for whom abortion constitutes a moral problem, should not be forced to terminate pregnancies. A doctor can refuse to do some things; he couldn't do that before. There were attempts to refuse, but it was not appreciated in a hospital. (D)
In the opinion of one doctor, the restrictive Anti-Abortion Act makes work much easier. When abortion was legal, a doctor was obliged to talk with women. He/she at least had to present the negative effects of abortion. Moreover, if being an opponent of termination of pregnancy, the doctor was nevertheless forced to listen to what motives brought a woman to her decision. Doctors made efforts to convince women otherwise, showing good sides of having a child in her situation. Surely every decision made by a woman to terminate pregnancy, was hurtful. In a recent legal situation, the work is much easier. Doctors don't have to take part in these talks, causing large psycho-moral relief. These persistent talks are over for me. At the moment, when a legal regulation is as it is, I don't have to justify anything. I just tell a patient that some things are not allowed by the law and I have this off my head. (D) The nurses and some doctors claimed that the Act in its recent form is too restrictive and should allow for termination of pregnancy in other situations, that it should allow for abortion on social grounds. A doctor is responsible for terminating a pregnancy and can go to prison. In my opinion this is the basic shortcoming of the Act. A doctor should not be held responsible for a woman getting pregnant. (D) "Women have abortions anyway, the Act is ineffective," said one doctor. Having an abortion using the services of the underground is not a problem for women, so the goals of legal regulations (limiting abortions) were not achieved. The introduction of the Act only caused an unjustified increase in incomes of one group of doctors, who conduct illegal abortions and take a lot of money for it. I have no idea, what the abortion underground looks like; I don't know how many patients come there. But this is another thing wrong about the Act, because this is just the way of making people richer, because they take a lot of money for doing it. (D) The Act affects mainly poor people. Poor women do not have the money for abortions, therefore they more often give birth to children. Supporting another child additionally lowers the home budget, which is not large anyway. Women, who are well off, can afford evading the law and have abortions underground - even if they could afford having a child. A person is nobody without money. If one has money, one has access to everything, even to abortion. (N) Doctors are convinced that if a woman is determined to terminate a pregnancy, she will do anything to have an abortion. These women cannot be convinced to have the baby - doctors say. They are so determined, they say: I don't want to, that's it. They are so desperate. One doctor described it: If she really doesn't want this pregnancy, she will terminate it. She won't be able to afford going to a private clinic, to this, let's say, underground in Poland, because it's expensive, she also won't be able to afford going somewhere, somewhere where it is cheaper, to Belarus or Ukraine, or wherever else, so she will decide to do it herself, try to do it using her own methods. And now there is a question what she is going to do. She can do it so she will hurt herself for the rest of her life, or she will loose her life. These are very rare cases, but this Act provokes these things … well it may provoke, because there is a chance for it. (D) One has to add that it is not only a chance for such cases to happen, they are happening; nurses confirm this. Women are refused lawful abortions in cases of serious illnesses, which endanger women's lives; statements from nurses confirm this. Complicated procedures cause women, even if they can legally have an abortion, to have it illegally. Procedures allowing women to terminate pregnancy, as mentioned before, are not well known to nurses or doctors. Even more so, they are not known to women. (See: Knowledge about conditions for termination of pregnancy and in effect procedures) There are certain procedures in the situation of pregnancies resulting from rape. There must be an investigation and women are ashamed and embarrassed, so they usually have abortions in private clinics. (N) There are also women who go through the necessary procedures, but have abortions using underground services, despite having the right to a safe, legal abortion in a hospital. Both doctors and nurses confirmed the fact that women are refused abortions in hospitals. The Act is not enough for women, nurses say. It does not take women's problems and their opinions into account. Legislators treat women as bags that carry babies, not even taking their health into consideration. Everybody makes statements and everyone has something to say, but women. Older men, for instance. Older women…the latter, older or younger, at least know something about it and went through something in their lives, but men, I don't know what they have to say about it, specifically the older ones, granddads or almost granddads. But, we cannot do anything about it. (N) Moral assessment of abortionEverything we do concerns ethics. (D) - noted one doctor. Abortion is not different. The termination of pregnancy is very important. It is impossible to escape ethical and moral considerations about abortion. Abortion is unethical, because it is a human being… one day it will be a human being, even if now it is a fetus. Killing is unethical. (D) All doctors agree that abortion is immoral, unethical, and that it is evil. It is a necessary evil, but it should be a possibility. (D) Supporting this statement, this doctor also argued that abortion is not the only unethical thing people do. Every day we commit acts which are not ethical: lies, causing unpleasantness, or, he added jokingly, killing mosquitoes. We work in medical professions, where we can see that people often wait to be helped because of cancer, because there are no medicines, or because there is a waiting list for treatment. This is also not morally just, same as here. All the time, mainly for financial reasons, we are on the edge of…we ourselves have moral doubts about what is going on. Children are being born with defects and they die, because medical insurance agencies are not paying for transport here, or there… (D) Values play a significant role in the resolution of moral doubts. Morally doubtful choices in medicine do not concern, as the above statement shows, only the health and life of a patient. The value of health and life, theoretically most important in medicine, are very often set-aside in practice, because financial values seem to have priority. Make someone explain to me, how much a human life is worth. If anyone can explain it to me with no doubt, we can talk then. It is taken that human life very often doesn't cost anything and we have proof of that everywhere and all the time, but our own life is, of course, priceless. Let's have some moderation. A life is a life. A doctor is obliged to protect it. (D) The moral dogmatism that every termination of pregnancy is absolute evil was not accepted by any of the doctors. The doctors interviewed called for reflective morality in relation to abortion. Despite not having any doubts about abortion being immoral, they do allow situations in which abortion is justified. Pregnancy is a large threat to mother's life. In this situation (abortion) it is saving another life, sacrificing one to save the other. Then it is a completely different moral problem. When a patient comes and says that the fetus has defects and she wants to terminate the pregnancy. (…) For example maybe this child would be born and grow up a vegetable. Or if this child died after two days, or didn't make it through labor. It could be like this. Or if a patient has two Downs Syndrome children already and there is third pregnancy - also with Downs. Such cases also happen. And, of course, it is a hard decision for her, because she cannot make it financially and she would like to have an abortion. And there she goes to a hospital and I am sure that in every hospital there are people who don't have moral doubts about doing it. There are also those, who would not terminate, because it is immoral for them. (D) The attitude of reflective morality encourages consideration of the problem from different points of view and acceptance of different opinions. It can be clearly seen in the above quoted statement. Talking about pregnancies resulting from rape, another doctor, a supporter of state control over women's actions, also accepted different points of assessment of abortion. He said that a child is not guilty of anything, but on the other hand, it is inhuman to force a woman to give birth to a child when she was raped. I think that yes, (abortion) it is an ethical and moral problem, but it is not discussed, not during studies, not in post-graduate school. Moral authorities make statements about it in a very unanimous way, usually in connection with religion. Moral authorities from outside this circle do not share their opinions. (D) The statement made by a doctor who accepts the rule of causing as little harm as possible, can serve as a conclusion on the moral assessment of abortion. These are tough problems… and one cannot be so uncompromising about it. One cannot be blinded. One has to be aware that the one's obligation is to act, so it causes as little harm as possible, to look for an optimal solution, because there is no ideal solution. (D) Allowing for more than one moral assessment of situations connected to abortion has something in common with the moral acceptance of the abortion underground. None of the interviewed doctors, irrespective of their own opinions about the Anti-Abortion Act and opinions about situations in which abortion is justified, assessed the abortion underground as something morally inappropriate. It can be morally appraised: no and that's all. But one can also present a medical approach, to balance it out: so abortion is not contraception, as it used to be for years, but so it is a woman's last resort. (N) Again, two other nurses said that there are people, who consider abortion in moral categories (evil, not good, inappropriate), but there are also those, who do not connect any moral questions with abortion; they leave it outside the sphere of good and bad. One can (treat abortion in moral categories), but I don't really understand; it (probably) means, (that) if I had an abortion, or ordered it to someone to terminate, this would follow me, I would feel remorse, and other people do not feel that. (N) Nurses had problems considering the moral aspect of abortion in general. Their statements on this were short, and lacked depth. While interviewed, they continually referred to assessments of individual cases. Two nurses stated that it is hard to negatively appraise decisions of women, who want to terminate pregnancy or have done that, because really it cannot be known how one would act in such a situation. One of them said that when she was younger she used to think that it is better to give birth than to terminate. Now that she is older, and has a family and a child, she stays away from generalizations. But I think, if I had an alcoholic husband, God save me, and I was pregnant again, and I wouldn't have money for bread for these children, then… I don't know, …I don't know what I would do. For some time I haven't had such critical opinions. (…) Surely good, surely bad; it is not black and white; there are colors. (N) The environment of medical professionDebate on the Act - social pressure Doctors have their own opinions about current anti-abortion regulations, they have their own thoughts; none of them, however, took part in the debate. Individuals cannot influence the Act. Decision-makers, those in power, decide about the law, not society. (D) Nurses also stayed out of the public debate for the same reason. There are people who care about it; they would be better in convincing others about their ideas. I think it is a very tough law, and it is hard to make people to respect it.(D) Not everyone, nevertheless, was so inoffensive, so passive, and so ambivalent to the debate. There was one doctor who would give his opinion if asked: This is so important a topic that it is the moral social obligation of every person to add his or her opinion. (D) Only one doctor shared a view that gynecologists, as being most often connected to the practical realization of the regulations, should have taken part in the debate on the shape of legal regulations on conditions for termination of pregnancy. There is a war, something like the war with religion controlling all this, and making a public statement against Anti-Abortion Act is acting contrary to God's commandments, because it is immediately connected with commandments. (D) Some doctors talk about social pressure, or even about the hunt for doctors who terminate pregnancies. This pressure, in their opinion, comes from the Church, mass media, and even some part of the medical world. It is strong enough for some doctors to be afraid of being even suspected performing abortions. If somebody were not definitely against the Anti-Abortion Act, they would be accused right away of conducting abortions. This is how it is going to be. So, why want to be exposed to this? (D) Doctors call upon actual cases, which stuck in their memory. One of them spoke of the case of a doctor from ¸ódê, who on a fervent request from a woman terminated the pregnancy in a private clinic. The pressure from journalists, and the medical environment connected to the Church caused a doctor to commit a suicide. To prove his statements about the pressure from groups connected to Church, another doctor recalled the known case of a well-known gynecologist from ¸ódê, Dr. Waclaw Dec. This doctor made public statements about a woman's right to an abortion. He said, that in his ward there are, and there will be, pregnancies terminated if a woman is in need. The doctor died in a car accident. The Church, for his "abortion actions" and public statements against the Act, denied him the right to catholic burial. This case shook and divided the public opinion and medical professional groups. It is unpleasant, when a doctor… known case: a doctor from ¸ódê, head of a ward, stated against the Act, then he was denied the burial in a church. So, you should understand that I'm not a revolutionist interested in changing something here. In my medical practice, it is a marginal matter. (D) The Act divides the professional environment One of the doctors presented a very negative description of the gynecological professional group. It shows, that gynecologists cannot really make statements about the law, because the opinions are very much divided. Working out a common position is also not possible because of the hypocrisy present in these groups. Some doctors publicly say what should be said, that they support the regulations, and are against abortion. Their practice is sometimes far from what they declare. I cannot speak on behalf of the entire profession, because it is very divided, and besides what someone states publicly, is not practiced. People act differently in hospitals where they show that they disagree with the law, and then in private clinics they perform abortions and make money from it, what should be remembered. So the environment is differentiated, and there is a lot of hypocrisy and mendacity in this environment. (D) Considering the social, religious, and political pressure put on doctors, one cannot be surprised that only this part of doctors who have a generally positive attitude towards the Act (D) take part in public discussion. This opinion would be in favor of withdrawing the Act. I think so. Because of the patients' health, because morality is a completely different issue. (D) Another doctor, being critical of the Act, stated that the majority of doctors in his professional environment think as he does. He stressed, however, that it is a specific group, connected with science and didactic. Doctors were outraged by such a restrictive character of the Act. They thought that it should include social grounds for abortion because of poverty… They are protecting the life of a fetus, but when it is born, no one really knows what to do. (N) Both in public, as well as in the professional environment, this discussion has calmed down. This is a topic that was discussed back and forth; it is not being avoided. (D) The professional groups are not interested, because everyone does what they want anyway. Those conducting abortions are doing this quietly; we do not feel the need to discuss these things over and over again. (D) Some form of adjustment to conditions set up by the Act appeared among gynecologists. Differences in opinions do not cause conflicts. There is a group of doctors, gynecologists, who live very well thanks to it. (D) Everyone is doing their thing and on their own account. I think in every profession there is some solidarity, it is clear, and let's "wash dirt" inside the firm, not outside it. If something is happening, it has to be done secretly; it's like this everywhere, not only in hospitals, not only in companies, not only in shops. (D) Nurses said that, at the moment, there are no discussions about the Act among them; there are no conflicts among personnel, caused by the functioning of the new Anti-Abortion Act. One nurse thinks that the attitude of the professional environment towards abortion is becoming more positive. This attitude towards abortion is becoming more positive. Because when one looks at these poor women with twelve children… (N) Other nurses claim that the Act did not change opinions about abortion itself. A doctor's work in the conditions set up by the Act The legal restrictions on lawful termination of pregnancy cause situations, which from the legal and moral perspective can cause objections. One of these situations is the refusal to conduct a lawful abortion in a hospital and conducting it for money in a private clinic. Interviewed doctors had not come across this situation. There are hospitals, especially outside Warsaw, small, in small towns having 5-10 thousand inhabitants, where a doctor in a hospital refuses to conduct abortions, and in the afternoon terminates pregnancies in his private clinic. This is double morality, but a very common situation. Or he will direct a patient to a colleague. It is a common practice. (D) Some doctors said that they heard about cases of refusals of lawful abortions in hospitals and conducting them for money in private clinics. No doctor, even those who had not directly heard about it, had doubts that such cases may be happening. I haven't come across it, but I think that there may be such a practice. (D) Doctors' opinions on this phenomenon varied. For some, they were unmentionable. One of the doctors defined it as meanness, not different from other meanness in this world; people meet with various mean thing. (D) There surely has to be some margin. As long as doctors are not appropriately paid and still have embarrassing salaries, different things will unfortunately happen. (…) I think that the better the salary will be, the more effective fighting with different situations (ones that are not that good from the ethical point of view) in medical environment will be. This concerns not only doctors, but also other professions: teachers, professors, all of these professions have been forgotten in Poland. (D) Doctors better knew the situation of refusing legally justified abortions. Those interviewed gave two reasons for such refusals. In this hospital, the director forbids doctors to do such operations. (D) In this case, the hospital's director and his personal views decided about not conducting abortions. Doctors, irrespective of their own views, act according to the boss' orders. They do not always realize the full implications of this, that refusing abortions sometimes puts life or health of a woman in danger, acting against basic rules of medicine. I don't think they consider it. I think that sometimes they allow extreme situations, which means that they cause life-threatening situations for some women. Sometimes, under pressure from hospital authorities, they refuse to perform an abortion on a seriously ill woman. (D) This decision is influenced not only by the views of the hospital's director, but also by the style of management. In some hospitals an atmosphere of pressure is created so that doctors do not terminate pregnancies. Doctors, who have different opinions, are afraid to state their views; they do not want to be seen as unethical, because they act against an unborn life (it is forgotten that actions can be also taken against woman's life, what is equally unethical). This situation is surely one of the reasons for the fore mentioned "double morality" among doctors. Doctors refuse in a hospital, but they don't refuse doing it in private clinics for money… some of them. (D) I have never heard about any conflict in that issue. Even when the previous law, allowing abortion, was in effect, we could state that we did not wish to perform such operations. (…) There were those among us, who wrote such statements, there were those, who didn't, and nobody was criticized - everyone had the right to their own opinion. We are not here to judge, this is at least what I think. (D) What doctors know about each other Not all doctors know where to direct a patient to have an abortion. One of the doctors said that it is more or less known where abortions are conducted, and where abortions are refused, and because of that one can direct a patient to the appropriate hospital. Another said that women, his patients, wander from hospital to hospital and are refused lawful abortions. Another doctor said: When patients ask if I could recommend someone, I have to be honest - even if I wanted to, I don't know anyone like that, I just don't know anyone …I myself do not do such things, and this is why I send people away with nothing. Nevertheless, I'm sure that finding someone is not a problem. (D) The fact that doctors do not know where abortions are performed results not only from hypocrisy and mendacity in the environment, but also from the anxieties of doctors, who terminate pregnancies. They fear the law and other doctors: their professional reputations. People who do it are afraid of legal actions - there are denunciations. It is not that doctors band together above the law. (D) There are groups in which, to avoid uncomfortable situations, tensions, and irritations, the topic of abortion is taboo. I personally don't know who performs abortions because it is not openly discussed. It is simply not discussed. It is like this: money is not discussed among gentlemen, same here… these matters are not discussed among gynecologists. I'm not sure if abortions are done by my colleagues at the hospital, but we don't talk about it. There is an underground so someone must be doing this. (D) The research disclosed one more reason for doctors not knowing what is happening in their profession; it is the attitude of excluding oneself from a problem. Doctors opposing abortion on social grounds take this attitude. One of the doctors said that the clause of conscience allowed him to take a negative position, as he described it himself, that means staying outside of it and stating: I do not do these things and I don't even want to have an opinion on them. (D) In cases of unwanted pregnancies, he helps women by giving them addresses of organizations that help pregnant women. Women, doctors, and medicineWe would now like to focus on the attitude of medical personnel towards women: to their rights, and in particular - to their right to an abortion. A woman's right to decide about her pregnancy All doctors think that in some circumstances a woman should have the right to an abortion. Irrespective of their attitude towards the current law, doctors named situations that, in their opinions, justify abortion.
While assessing the situation, morality clearly drives the opinion: is it right, morally correct, to terminate pregnancy when… Thinking of it this way encourages saying "no," because everyone acknowledges abortion as something morally evil. On the other hand, taking the perspective of a woman who found herself in a certain situation encourages saying "yes, I understand that in this situation she wants to terminate the pregnancy and that she should have such a possibility." She got pregnant, she cannot have it, because she cannot afford this pregnancy, and she won't give a baby away, because … generally she is just…well, … a normal woman, she won't give a child away, if she gives birth to it… and she cannot afford it. (D) In doctor's opinion, this woman should have a possibility to terminate pregnancy based on her difficult financial situation; because she is a normal woman, and he understands her. Maybe considering this situation from a point of view of morality (life vs. material conditions), would lead a doctor to different conclusions. I think that there are social reasons (to terminate a pregnancy), because every woman has the right to decide about her own child and about the pregnancy.(D) Yet another doctor, a supporter of making the abortion less accessible, did not specifically mention the concept of "rights," but, at the same time, referred to the notion of "free choice." When describing situations in which women should have a right to terminate pregnancy, he said: If she is really determined and really wants to terminate pregnancy, then I think it is her own choice. I tell her that there is a possibility and this is not a problem. (D) It seems from the doctors' statements that the relations between situations justifying abortion, a woman's right to decide, and an attitude towards the Act, are not convergent. Definite statements against the Act do not mean one is pro-abortion. It is, nevertheless, an acknowledgment of women's rights. These should be taken under consideration, but not always is taken. (N) Other situations justifying abortion mentioned by nurses, are:
Nurses' statements show, that while assessing if a woman should have the right to an abortion in certain situations, they pay much attention to assessing if the woman will be able to be a "good mother" for a child. If, because of financial situation, family situation, her own addictions or young age, taking care of a child would be hard or impossible for her, she should have the right to terminate a pregnancy. Despite me being Catholic and not supporting abortion on social grounds, I think that in situations such as rape, serious diseases, etc., pregnancies should be terminated.(N) Women who have abortions Women ask for abortions for the following reasons:
I think that this is not the right man, sexual intimacy is one thing, but the possibility of being with this man for a lifetime is another issue. (D) Poor women have more children, rich women have more abortions. They justify this with not wanting a pregnancy because they want to pursue a career, because they work, because they want to further their personal development. (D) The majority of women who get pregnant, simply do not use protection. They either did not use any method, or sporadically used some chemical methods. (D) A husband tries to talk a woman into it, harasses her, "oh, you are going to have another child, and what for? Go and have an abortion" and maybe she would like to have this baby. (D) We know of cases where a woman thinks she will not get pregnant, because she is over 40. (D) Women usually terminate pregnancies after discussing it with the family (D), although it also happens that they come in secret. Doctors' attitudes towards women who terminate pregnancies Doctors are deeply convinced that a woman, who definitely doesn't want to have a child, will have an abortion, despite legal regulations. There can be a law making it easier or harder. If she really doesn't want this child, she will have abortion. Even with the current law, women, according to doctors, do not have problems terminating unwanted pregnancies. There were women for whom this was a shock; they were really taking it hard. They were shocked, because they were forced to make a horrible choice. (…) But there were also those who treated it like cosmetic surgery, and they treated this whole situation in a way that abused human dignity. (D) Women, who treat pregnancy and abortion "lightly," invoke irritation, antipathy and contempt. They are described as "too reckless", etc. Doctors, generally feel sorry for women. Compassion, nevertheless, ends at some point and irritation sets in. What do I say to a patient who comes 2 or 3 times a year for an abortion? Or to those, who react to contraceptive advice with, "why do you interfere with someone else's matters, it's none of your business…" - it is generally outrageous. (D) One of the doctors talked about single cases, where women came to have an abortion very late and one could see that they didn't treat the pregnancy seriously. In such cases, some doctors would try to postpone the abortion, so a patient crossed the time limit allowing for abortion. Doctors suffer along with her. It would be inhuman to make a woman carry a child, when a pregnancy results from a criminal act. (D) Nurses do not agree with the opinion that in legally permitted circumstances doctors terminate pregnancies with no problems and suffer along with their patients. In their opinion, doctors tend to send a patient from one doctor to another, they show reluctance towards issuing certificates for official abortions. They are afraid to terminate pregnancies in hospitals and postpone them for so long that even in obvious situations abortions are not being conducted. Nurses give examples of cases when women should have had an abortion (e.g. for medical reasons) and hadn't. (See: Termination of pregnancies in hospitals) Even in a case of brain cancer, doctors postponed the procedure. There is nothing to be done in the case of pregnancy, one cannot take gyrostatic medicines, and one cannot undergo chemotherapy, because then the fetus will be damaged. At the same time, one cannot really have an abortion, because there always are some complications, a woman is sent from one doctor to another, the pregnancy develops, and finally she has to give birth and then - there is nothing to be saved. (N) According to one nurse, such a situation where obstacles were created - demanding new certificates and statements, making legal abortion less accessible for women, postponing the decision until the time limit passed - was also common during the temporary liberalization of the law (between 1996 and 1997). Even when there was this liberalization, everything was being prolonged, so that women would not have an abortion. For example, the results of examination came too late, or other examinations were needed, or it could not be done here. Women had huge problems. This went on for so long that the 3 month-limit finally passed. (N) One doctor and one nurse said that doctors are afraid to issue a referral for abortion and to conduct abortions in hospitals. They are not sure if they will be accused of breaking the law, because, on the one hand, it is common knowledge when abortion is permitted, but, on the other, the law can be interpreted in different ways. One of the doctors stated that in his hospital someone would surely conduct abortion if a woman had the appropriate certificates, but she would have to have really good papers. Relations between doctors and women Women who visit doctors because of unwanted pregnancy are treated by different doctors in different ways. These talks with patients are over for me. (…) I simply tell a patient that we are not allowed to do certain things and I have it off my head. I can be sympathetic, etc.… I can give her addresses of people who can help her in other ways (centers helping pregnant women). (D) On the contrary, another doctor, first of all, tries to talk. He feels that in this way he is able to support a woman, help her make a decision. He calls these talks "therapeutic" and considers them to be an important part of a doctor's service. When they come, they are lost, they cry; it is connected with a lack of faith in themselves and doubts whether they will be able to deal with it. They cannot go to their mothers with this problem, sometimes they cannot tell their husbands. (…) I try to talk to them, because they are usually lost. If this is an extramarital pregnancy, a woman doesn't even have anyone to talk to, so a doctor is like a confidant for her. (D) One doctor stressed that there should be some rules as to the way these consultations should proceed. He also said that it would be good if doctors in Poland were trained for such conversations. Such training is currently unavailable. A counselor cannot be authoritative, or judgmental. He has to be open and honest. All pro's and con's should be presented. A doctor should talk about risks, how the abortion could influence following pregnancies, what can be expected afterwards.(D) Some doctors stressed the importance of talks with a woman wanting to terminate pregnancy. It is nevertheless hard to judge, to what extent they act according to these standards in their clinics. There should be consultations, first, second, third…, slowly getting to the reasons for which a woman wants to terminate her pregnancy. One can help, try to show the positive sides, convince her. There should be such a talk. (D) Judging from the doctors' recommendations, we can infer that supportive consultations, allowing women to calmly assess the situation, and making the decision easier, are at present very rare. Doctors admit that. It is that…I imagine it happening like that, because patients tell me so,… that she goes somewhere to a private clinic, somewhere… well, you can call yourself, because in Zycie Warszawy you can find official ads: "gynecologist, operations cheap", and there they talk mostly about how far along the pregnancy is and how much it costs. (…) In a public clinic a doctor usually says that such operations are not conducted. (D) According to one doctor, when it comes to advice, the situation is even worse than it used to be. It used to be that a doctor told a patient about harmful effects of abortion. At the moment, this is not the case. I hope that the majority of my colleagues, including those, who used to conduct abortions, explained that the operation is risky. Right now it is two people's plot to commit a misdemeanor. There is no place for additional advice. (D) Women facing unwanted pregnancies have very difficult decisions to make. It is important that they are free from stress and pressure. One doctor spoke of the psychological consequences of abortion, which he came across during his practice. He calls them " post-abortion psychological complications". Some women do not realize the psychological consequences of such decision until they are 60 and some years of age and experience a lot in their lives. Sometimes, they suddenly feel guilty after all these years. And this is mainly the feeling of guilt among older women. (D) It is easy to foster restrictive attitudes based on this feeling of guilt. Demonstrations lead by older women in front of the Parliament can be treated as some kind of penance for their sins, granting forgiveness. Such behavior can be described as egoistic, which does not take into account potential harmful results to others, and as immoral. I was really surprised to see older women picketing, those who did not have anything to do with the problem, yet mostly they were interested. The majority of them probably had abortions when they were young. (N) Nurses working in hospital wards praised the doctors they worked with. They said that doctors treated patients well and that if a doctor in an emergency room was against abortion, he called his colleague, who had a talk with the woman. Doctors do not judge patients, they do not show any negative emotions, they know that women have problems, that things happen, they understand it is hard for women, etc. The place of nurses and midwives Nurses and midwives are ranked lower then doctors in a professional hierarchy. They are mute witnesses of events taking place in hospitals; they observe doctors, their work, female patients. Even if they suspect something, know something, they don't go deeper, they don't say anything, don't comment. (See: Attempts to terminate pregnancies by women themselves and post-abortion complications). They don't have the possibility to undertake actions, their role remains passive. We, as midwives, can advise a patient, can…only advise, this is the only thing we can do. Because we ourselves cannot take any actions, we cannot do anything.(N) Midwives understand women's problems. One of them stated that if she only could, she would actively help women with unwanted pregnancies. As far as I'm concerned, if I knew that a woman, who came to me, with eight children and an alcoholic husband, I would be willing to terminate the pregnancy, along with performing sterilization, so she wouldn't have more children. She would definitely ask for it. Then nobody would have to be informed.(N) The attitude of midwives towards women with complications after professional and unprofessional abortions is, as they say themselves, positive. They don't make judgments, they don't show any negative emotions, and they don't even let them see that they know about their problem. In the opinion of midwives, women who come to hospitals because of abortion-related complications, made difficult choices in tough situations. They had a problem, this is how it ended; they faced the consequences of their actions (complications and fear). Two midwives stressed that they don't know how they would behave in the same situation. She chose to have an abortion, she was mutilated and additionally we were suppose to shout at her; it does not make sense. (N) A nurse or a midwife can talk to a woman, calm her down, advise something. It is a very important task, when a patient comes to a doctor shaky, shocked that she got pregnant when she didn't want to, or that she is in a hospital, full of anxieties about her health and what will happen if it doesn't work out. These talks can help a woman solve her problems. They can give her advice on family planning. When we talk and this topic comes out, we try to help somehow, in one way or another. We advise something ourselves or that she goes to some doctor or somewhere else …because patients don't even know where and how to do things…how (to manage to get) some pills, or whatever…well, they just don't know what and how. And, most often, they are ashamed to stay in a queue to buy condoms - and simply ask for them. (N) A women's right to a lawful abortion and refusals in hospitals Doctors know or have heard of cases where women were refused abortions in hospitals in situations when according to the Act they had the right to terminate pregnancy. Some doctors, nevertheless, do not see this as a problem. She can go to another center, because, now, there are no limitations on where aÊperson can go to get medical assistance (Before the 1999 reform of health care system, a person was assigned to only one district public health center). It's like that, there is always someone in a hospital, who will perform such operation. (D) Two doctors had a different opinion in this matter, they think that a refusal to conduct an abortion in a hospital is a problem. For one doctor, such behavior constitutes an ethical problem. The hospital, where a director refuses abortions, very often endangers the health or life of a woman. It acts against the rules of professional ethics, which commands to protect health and life of every person. A woman, who decides to (have an abortion), because she will not be able carry this pregnancy to term anyway when a child will not be born alive due to such defects as it won't survive… It is very stressful for her, a tragedy. This woman should have the right to have such an operation in a hospital, for free, in safe conditions, not somewhere between Poland and Czech Republic or Slovakia. (D) When a woman has the legal right to an abortion, she should not be forced by institutions, which are established for exercising this right, to break the law and turn to the underground. It happens very often, that a person disappears in all of it, we can say… it is only a case… and a doctor often doesn't think that he is refusing a woman, he just refuses this or that to a patient, so it is only another case…it happens very often with the routine work. (N) A woman's possibilities to demand her right Only one of the doctors surveyed thinks that a woman can exercise her right to abortion in practice. If there are problems, if doctors keep refusing, she should go to the main voivodship's doctor, and he has to direct her to a hospital where this procedure can be performed. There are people who are willing to do it. (D) Other doctors definitely do not see possibilities for women to exercise their rights. A doctor can refuse to conduct termination, and a woman cannot claim that she has the right to have abortion in this hospital, because patients are no longer registered in district centers. There are no situations in which a hospital, which refuses to perform abortion, refers a patient to another one (this is required by law - of course, in cases of lawful abortion). Hospitals refuse and that's it. A woman has to look by herself. (D) Nurses also don't see the possibility of exercising one's right to abortion. One of them said that the National (Gynecology and Obstetrics) Consultant is theoretically obliged to refer to (a hospital) which will conduct this operation (N), but she also added that such case would certainly take so long that even if the Consultant referred to a hospital, it would be too late to terminate pregnancy. Women's anxieties As a matter of fact, being pregnant in itself, irrespective of it being planned or not, is connected with enormous stress. If the pregnancy is unwanted, it is a shock.
When they come, they are lost, they cry, because they don't feel that they can deal with it.(D) It is inhuman to force a woman to carry a pregnancy, which resulted from a criminal act. (D) When a woman really decides for an abortion, it is surely very stressful for her. (…) It is a serious operation, and a woman doesn't want to, doesn't like to have such things done to her. (D) When a woman decides for an abortion, it usually means the beginning of a drama for her. She has to look for a gynecological ward, which will help her terminate this pregnancy. (…) Every gynecological ward, every director might refuse to conduct such an operation. Then she wanders all around Poland, looking for possibilities of termination, and usually she ends up in some abortion underground or goes to Czech Republic, Slovakia or Belarus. (D) They can be afraid of their partners, who can have different opinion about it, or their families, or their colleagues, who might find out that she was pregnant and is not pregnant anymore. (D) She had the right to be afraid, because the truth is that if we have a definite illegal abortion, we have to report it to the prosecutor's office, because it is a crime. (D) Sometimes, they experience anxiety, whether the uterus was not injured. (N) According to one doctor, women are afraid to say that they had an abortion, they admit of doing so only when they are sure that this information won't be used against them, they admit it during private medical interviews. I think that they are a bit afraid to talk about having abortion, but, on the other hand, if they know they are talking to a doctor, who won't ask additional questions about where it happened, only if it was done professionally and whether there were no complications, then I think they can share it. (D) Analysis of the collected material allows to presume that women may also be afraid of contacts with a doctor: will she be treated with sympathy; will her problems be understood; will she be sent away with nothing, because a doctor is against abortion; will he qualify her state of health as bad enough, so she should can be referred to have an abortion. Fears from lack of understanding, humiliation, difficulties of formal procedures make women conduct an informal inquiry: they come here, secretly ask nurses or midwives, that they may be this or that … and how it is here. (N) Women in cities and women in the country While discussing the differences in possibilities for abortion for women in cities and women living in rural areas, doctors presented two totally different opinions. In the country, women are less educated in the sphere of sexual education, they rarely use contraception, and get pregnant more often. Women living in rural areas are much poorer than women in cities, but the price for abortion is much lower in the country. I think…that for many women living in rural areas, abortion is the only "contraceptive method" they use. Contrary to cities where there is access to many different methods of contraception. (D) The second theory sees rural areas as highly religious communities of very strong social control, with negative attitudes towards abortion. For social, moral, and religious reasons, women in rural areas do not want to terminate their pregnancies that often, and when they do, it is more difficult. In a city, there is at least some anonymity and one can turn to somebody; if not to this doctor than to another. Things look completely different in rural areas, a doctor plays cards with a priest and a pharmacist. Everybody knows everything. And getting to a bigger city, to a hospital, it is an additional expenditure. (D) | |